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> May I ask what kinds of communities, out of curiosity?

I have no problems with that, but their mention makes payment processors angry and as a result their mention would probably be an Itch ToS violation. The only thing further I'll say is that I am exclusively in the 'fiction only' side of those communities, and in no way, shape, or form condone such things when they happen in real life. In fact, I actively and vehemently condemn them in real life.

> And apologies for the strong choice of words, you just came at me strong and I felt a strong worded response was necessary.

Yeah, I think I can say the same here. I didn't respond to you saying I was acting like you were rude because, well.. To be fair, I was a bit rude myself. I do think your initial posts in here have seemed rude to me, and several of your responses to me, but to be honest I don't actually have a problem with you being rude to me, so I didn't really care to point it out. To do so would have been hypocritical, because I was rude to you in the same way you were rude to me, and in my mind the most likely cause of that is both of us feeling like the rudeness is justified and warranted.

But even if the rudeness wasn't justified or warranted for either of us, it's still understandable for both of us to think it was, and thus understandable for both of us to be rude as a result.

So yeah, no need to apologize, but apology accepted regardless.

> How I interpret this game to be honest, even if I know the creator has the best intentions in mind. Plus, that's HIGHLY subjective, so you can easily make the argument this game is like that.

That's why I focus on the words and posts made outside of the game, and not the game itself.

As a hypothetical, imagine a game that is designed to simulate the effects of racism, and lets you play as a racist that does various racist things.. To show you the devastating effects of that racism on the NPCs you affect. Like, showing you a report at the end that details how they've lost their job, couldn't afford healthcare causing their wife to die, and so on.

An actual racist might see all that while playing and laugh, being like, "Oh GOOD! HAH his wife died!"

But someone who is racist more subconsciously due to larger societal influences at large might play the game being only subconsciously racist, believing that they're not making any racist decisions... And then be shocked at and disturbed by the report at the end.

This is the sort of thing you see in, for example, Undertale's genocide route.. Where you have the option to kill everyone, and the game gets progressively less fun with towns being empty due to people fleeing from you for their lives.

But imagine in that hypothetical racism simulator, that someone who does not think they are racist but has subconscious racist tendencies, joins the game's community forums to complain about the end report they got in the game.. Saying that they aren't racists, tried to play the game as non-racist as possible, and don't like how the game is seeming to claim that he's racist.

Now, lets say the creator of the game responds directly to them.. But lets split this into two Universes: one where the game's creator intends to point out how subconscious racism can exist, and another where its creator intends to manipulate people into becoming more racist.

In the first, the creator explains what sorts of events in the game result in a report like the one being complained about, and explains that this is still racism, even though the person doesn't believe themselves to be racist. Explains that it's not their fault, it's all learned from their environment and society, but that's why they made the game: to bring awareness to the problem.

In the second Universe, the creator could do a few different things. They might try to convince them that, "Hey, you're not racist, and that's not a racist result! That person got what they deserved for non-racist reasons!" Or they could try to deepen the divide between races by saying something like, "It's satire, man! They claim we're racist for things like that, and just can't accept that we really aren't! I'm just showing how these stupid people think about racism and how it's all bullshit!"

But in the end, the goal of that second Universe's game's creator's replies is overall to either convince the complaining player that it's okay to have these subconscious racist tendencies, or to drive division in people who are against racism into thinking that some of the people they agree with are against them.. Which is a stark contrast to the first Universe's game's creator's replies, which are meant to convince the person that they are subconsciously racist, and this is why that matters.

In both Universes, the content of the game is 100% identical. But the surrounding rhetoric and purpose is vastly different.

Like.. Can you imagine a world where Toby Fox said that the genocide route's purpose is to give players a feeling of dominance and power? The game wouldn't need to change one bit for people to revolt against him for such a thing.

> Well if the string of laws and attitude from the last year aren't evident enough, I consider cis people as the greatest enemies of the LGBTQT+ community, so yes, I do generally loathe cis people, especially men, and could care less about their problems and if anything hope their situation worsens so they know how they feel.

You're falling for the 'Us vs. Them' mentality that malicious people with power want us to have. They know that not every cis person hates the LGBTQ+ community like they do, but they want to increase the percentage of cis people who do hate LGBTQ+ people.

The easiest way to do that is to make LGBTQ+ people think that cis people as a whole hate them, and then make statements targeting cis people (as in, cis people as the target audience of the statements) where they point to LGBTQ+ people hating cis people and use that as evidence that LGBTQ+ people as a whole are lunatics that are against the entire rest of society.

It can be tiring, but whenever I see people on, for example Twitter, talk about trans people as if trans people are delusional and should be removed from society? I try to convince them otherwise in much the same way I try to convince you the same about them: that yes, there are people who claim such things, but that is NOT all, or even the majority, of them.

Though to be fair, when it comes to them, I point to their own posts and tell them that 'their side' already has the power to actually do this, and that means that while trans people lack power and cannot be a legitimate threat to them, they have power and are a legitimate threat to trans people.

> Out of curiosity, are you a transgendered or cis person?

I actually just went over that a bit earlier in a response to someone else in this reply tree. The topic of why I'm into this game came up, so I explained it, and for completeness I contrasted the fantasy scenarios I'm into (relating to this game) to my actual gender identity, and how they differ.

The TL;DR is that I do tend to somewhat default to 'cisgender', but if someone prefers I have a particular gender identity, I will have that gender identity instead.

What I didn't say in that post, is that the bit toward the end (where I mention the rubber sex doll identity) was actually a big influence on my identity. A particular good friend of mine did prefer me to identify as a toy.. And when thinking about it, I realized I actually did identify that way to a large extent. It fit several parts of my real life identity, online identity, and in general how I thought of myself.

So when figuring out how I felt about my own gender identity and how to express it, part of that process was breaking down how I felt about that and the other identities I'd assumed for other people, and figuring out an abstraction that covered all the use cases. And because I do tend to default to just 'cis', it felt fitting to tack that on at the start as the default case.